Curious how camps are dealing with the van issue? Are you going to the small bus route? Retrofitting your vans to have utilize four tires in the back? Banning roof racks? Trailers? We have a group that utilizes vans and they travel all over Maine and into Canada with their stuff. Saying goes no one in the back seat, meaning everyone ahead of the rear axle and that you shouldn't have the weight of 15 people in it. But if you use roof rack to carry stuff top heaviness issue comes into play. Trailers have their own problems. Curious how other camps have dealt with this.