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I had 2 brothers who were living with Grandma and the reason why they were not living with the biological mother was because the biological mother had physcially and sexually abused her young male children-- the campers were 8 and 6. The campers were also negleted because they looked small for their age and it was due to the biological mother not feeding them the right foods so they could grow. I dont want to give the details of the abuse here as it would proberly gross out most of the people on the board