OK whoa!

Let's all take a step back here, I don't think this discussion is going anywhere but downhill. Obviously, Tedrocks' comments about linny were totally out of line, and I can understand why she is upset. However, coming back with another personal insult is just going to lead us down a nasty road nobody really wants to go down.

I suggest we end this thread here and now. I think it's clear nobody is going to change anybody's mind, and it's an issue that's so rooted in tradition and camp experience for some people that it obviously evokes some strong feelings on both sides of the issue. Further debate on this topic is pointless, I believe. I am going to, as Canuck likes to say, "take my ball and go home". What the rest of you do is of course up to you but I am removing myself from this debate because all it is doing is going in vicious circles at this point.