yeah, it is kind of fun, but sometimes a thread needs to just be dropped because it has been discussed to the max and there is nothing else to say so then we have pages worth of posts that don't mean anything to the newbie who wanted answers or to discuss the actual topic. oh well, it isn't going to work very well I don;t think! That;s alright though I guess, though discussing totally non-camp realted stuff on the forums sometimes gets me since it is supposed to be all about camp at least!